As a Southern Baptist, I had been raised under two very clear principles that would later prove to be catalysts in my conversion:
1) A strong belief in miracles and other "faith-only" principles (in other words, those truths we cannot empirically verify)
2) A motif for interpreting Scripture according to a literal sense interpretation whenever possible
So when my Baptist preacher brought out the dusty communion plates every 4 months and uttered the words, "Take, eat, this is my body", I thought, even as a child, "that's His body"; though that simple understanding would be complicated by youth pastors and radio preachers as I "progressed". During college, I came to understand that the symbolic interpretation of Christ's words was heralded by Protestants more as a political strategy than sound theology; it was the anti-Catholic theology, and that was as good as a decree from St. Dobson.
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A few months into our 9 month stint in south Florida, my wife attended a Lutheran church. When communion began, the pastor asked her if she believed the elements to be the true body and blood of Christ. Thinking back to the Last Supper, she realized in one quick moment of clarity that she would be silly to not take Christ's words literally. While I did not fully appreciate it at the time, this event would become the primary motivation for moving forward for my wife, and ultimately for myself as well.
I'm not being coy when I say that I've never heard a good argument against Transubstantiation: that is, the doctrine that Christ is really and fully present in the elements of the Eucharist. A protestant can draw arguments from 2 different vantage points: 1) Scripture or 2) Empiricism.
The argument from Scripture is, simply, that the passages in question should be interpreted figuratively. In which case, the Catholic can argue that the passages should be interpreted literally. It's your interpretation vs. mine which turns quickly into a meaningless argument. Forgetting that the Church Fathers almost unanimously taught Transubstantiation, and that there is no good textual reason to abandon the literal sense interpretation, many Protestants are happy to wield a hollow defense of what is, clearly, a political stance and not a theological one.
The second argument is, ironically, more personally compelling and more absurd than the first. This is the argument that the elements can not be body and blood because they are clearly just bread and wine. If it looks like bread, and tastes like bread, then it must be bread. This is personally compelling because I, like my peers, was raised in a modernist culture that values empirical evidence. This is stoutly absurd because a Christian (Protestant or otherwise) has already submitted to some bizarre claims that are outside the realm of empirical verification. I would have a hard time looking a Catholic in the eye and stating that, while I affirm the resurrection, the Virgin birth, Jonah and the whale, the flood, and Genesis' account of Creation, I cannot affirm the words of Christ that those elements are His Body and Blood.
St. Ambrose said it nicely: "Could not Christ's word, which can make from nothing what did not exist, change existing things into what they were not before? It is no less a feat to give things their original nature than to change their nature."I find the teaching to be a refreshing bulwark against modernism, an exercise of faith. It is also one more way in which the Church makes tactile the intangible. Transubstantiation represents a strange challenge to our faith; we struggle every day to believe those things that are unseen. How much more difficult to believe that something we see and touch and taste is substantially different than we perceive it?
One final note, and I won't dwell long on it because I don't understand the full implication. Jesus says, as recorded in John 6:53, "Truly, truly, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you." Here, Jesus equates life or eternal salvation with the consumption of His Body and Blood. Is a symbolic understanding of the Eucharist an acceptable substitute for the clear teaching of Christianity on this subject? Can I claim to have the life Jesus wishes to give, if I, by my own belief, have never partaken of Christ? I trust that God's grace is greater than any disagreement between Protestants and Catholics, but I will continue to read John 6 with unease.


Hey Chris, it's Valeri (Lowe) Ball! I have also become interested in researching the truths of the bible. I have never actually read or commented on a blog before so I thought I'd give it a try. I have mostly been, instead of focusing on singular verses and interpreting them as you see them, but rather looking at who was the verse intended for, at what time it was spoken... etc...
ReplyDeleteWhen Jesus said what is recorded in John 6:53, his institution of the Lord’s Supper or whatever you call it, was yet a while away. None who heard Jesus had any idea about an annual celebration with literal emblems standing for Christ’s flesh and blood. Rather, Jesus’ theme, or line of argument, in John chapter 6 had to do with his flesh being comparable to manna. There was a difference, though. His flesh (and, he added, his blood) was greater than literal manna in that his flesh was given for the life of the world, making everlasting life possible.—John 6:48-51.
Acts 15:28,29 states, "For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these essentials: that you abstain from things sacrificed to idols and from blood and from things strangled and from fornication; if you keep yourselves free from such things, you will do well. Farewell."
If we are to abstain from blood here, why any different elsewhere?
Just thoughts... for my ownself really.
Thanks for the thoughts, Valeri. I agree entirely that Scripture is not open to a private interpretation. We must always consider the historical, cultural, and textual context of any passage. I would, however, take it a step further and try to view any Scripture passages in consideration of how the Apostles and early Church leaders interpreted the same passages.
ReplyDeleteYou're right about the Last Supper being instituted after the events of John 6, but Jesus says very much the same thing at the time of the Last Supper. This is from Matthew 26:26 - Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and after blessing it broke it and gave it to the disciples, and said, "Take, eat; this is my body."
It is the clarity of this passage that illuminates the confusion of John 6, and that is why all of the early Church leaders celebrated the Eucharist at least weekly and taught it to be Christ's body and blood.
I have learned a lot since our Erik Christianson days about how the Bible cannot be accurately interpreted apart from considering how others have previously interpreted it. If we did not take earlier interpretations into account, we would all come to different conclusions about doctrines. The explosion of differing denominations is due entirely to this exact problem.
You're always welcome to comment on my blog! I never allow mean or hateful comments, so you don't have to worry about people hating on you. I certainly never will! I hope you're doing well.
"Transubstantiation: that is, the doctrine that Christ is really and fully present in the elements of the Eucharist."
ReplyDeleteThat would actually be Real Presence rather than transubstantiation. Transubstantiation is the teaching that the bread a...nd wine become the body and blood, not that they are merely fully and really present.
That is my only objection by the way. Good post even though I don't affrim Transubstantiation.
thanks! and your distinction is well received. The Church has handed the 2 doctrines down as a pair, and it seemed fair to use 1 term to refer to both aspects.
ReplyDeleteWe Lutherans are all about distinctions ;-)
ReplyDeleteHi Chris, I read your thoughts. Could you elaborate on how the Eucharist as a covenant meal works into the RCC's doctrine? Is that ever made a point of emphasis during a Mass? In other words is it asked why Jesus said, "This is the new cove...nant in my blood." (And I'm not asking to nitpick over the word order of his statement) :)
ReplyDeleteAlso, does your Chattanooga parish offer both the bread and wine to congregants?
The communal aspect of the Eucharistic celebration is apparent at Mass, though it is not emphasized. Rather, the sacrificial aspect is the primary focus.
ReplyDeleteIt is in this that the "covenant" meal is most accurately expressed. Under the Old Covenant, the people of God celebrated a sacrificial meal at Passover. The Old Covenant was in a lamb's blood; the New Covenant is in Christ's blood. So we now celebrate a sacrificial meal that has surpassed the original.
We do partake of the Eucharist under both species; that is the common form in America.
To the first comment and answere I give the Lutheran explaination. "Is" means "is".
ReplyDeleteGreat blog!!
ReplyDeleteVery glad I stumbled arcoss it.